Podcast - Episode 19: Healing is possible, Telewellness, Patient Advocacy, Terrain Function, Mistletoe, Informed Consent and more

EPISODE SUMMARY
Guest: Tye Jackson

Telehealth offers health coaching for wellness care through serious conditions such as autoimmune issues and cancer care through zoom around the world. In the United States, they can offer direct-to-consumer labs.

  •  Terrain function means that the process starts with assessing the lay of the land and figuring out an individual approach. They don’t cure illness or cure cancer but rather teach clients to work with the body.

  •  An important motto is we test, assess, address, and never guess.  It's really important to pop the hood, take a look at your engine, and see how it's running. All is based on a belief in sovereign wellness and in sovereign control of your own health and wellbeing, and so our goal is to walk our clients through not only the system that we've put together for them by getting in-depth labs and then coaching them through the plan. 

  • The Functional Integrative model means all modalities are being considered.

  • Informed consent is detailed consent on any therapy or any modality that you're being asked to engage in, or even on any medicine that you're being asked to take. Informed consent means you know what the side effects are, what the outcome may be, how that's going to factor in with all the other things in your life, and then you give them the freedom to choose.

  • “Lord, heal me, and I will be healed. Save me, and I will be saved, for you are my praise” Jeremiah 17:14

To contact Tye:

https://www.worldviewwellness.com/

https://open.spotify.com/show/3ll3cAjq7JHrVIv7URrlUp

 contact@worldviewwellness.com

To contact Ruth, go to https://www.blairclinic.com

ruth@blairclinic.com

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Blog Post URL https://www.blairclinic.com/podcast

EPISODE TRANSCRIPT

Welcome, welcome, welcome to What Pain in the Neck? The podcast. I am Ruth Elder, and I'm sitting here with a special guest today from Worldview Wellness.

Worldview Wellness.

Her name is Tye Jackson. She is a patient advocate. Tye, why don't you introduce yourself and your business, and what is a patient advocate?

Okay. Well, first I want to say thank you so much, Ruth, for letting me be here with you today and talk to you about what we do and share our like-minded thoughts with each other. My name is Tye Jackson, and I am co-owner and client advocate for Worldview Wellness. We are a health and wellness-- it is a telewellness consulting business.

Telewellness.

Telewellness. Everything that we do is online, so nobody ever actually has to come see us in-person.

You can see people from all over?

We actually have clients all over the United States. The farthest we have clients is from Spain and Iceland. Everything we do is through Zoom.

Wow. Even international works?

Even international works, and we can do direct-to-consumer labs for any of our clients here in the United States.

Okay, so direct to consumer labs. You're going right into it. I don't even really know what that means. Can you explain that?

Sure. When we onboard a client and we see people who have light health and wellness needs who just need to understand how to sovereignly direct and guide their own health, what kind of supplements to take, what kind of lifestyle modalities and therapies that they can include in their life to help in calmness, wellness and in wellbeing, and we also have a lot of clients with heart disease, diabetes, cancer. We really see everyone. We see children, we see adults. We use a system called Evexia Diagnostics, and we basically can run any kind of specialty panel, basic labs, really in-depth labs specialty kits to assess terrain function, terrain systems and hormones, gut function, environmental pollutants.

Terrain function. What does that mean?

When you're thinking of terrain I want you to think about the lay of the land. What does the lay of the land look like? Is all of the land healthy? You might have a cluster of trees in a pasture. You may have an apple orchard. You may have a vegetable garden. That would be the terrain of the land that you live on, and that's basically what our bodies are. Our body is a unique terrain system, and each system, and let's talk about the different systems of your terrain. That would be gut health, hormone health, thyroid health, adrenal health, mental and emotional and spiritual wellness and health.

Our job is we don't cure cancer, we don't cure illnesses. What we do is we come in and we assess the terrain, and we teach our clients how to walk into freedom, not only through healthy eating, but healthy lifestyle habits, healthy mental and spiritual habits. My husband, PA Micah Jackson, heads up all consultations. He's been in the medical industry for over 20 years, and so watching him head up these consultations and doing this really deep overview but also nuanced assessment of labs, he's really got an amazing knack for that. We draw up complete plans for people, and we have literally watched people walk out of diabetes, heart disease. We've watched cancer in clients walk into no cancer, which has been pretty amazing.

That is incredible. Okay, so that got you started answering kind of my next question because you went deep right from the beginning, but if we go to the basics, why is all of that important to get all those in depth assessments? Who would need that, and why would I want to go through all of that?

Well, one of our mottos is we test, assess, address, and we never guess. We feel that it's really important to pop the hood, take a look at your engine, and see how it's running. We also believe in sovereign wellness and in sovereign control of your own health and wellbeing, and so our goal is to walk our clients through not only the system that we've put together for them by getting in-depth labs and then coaching them through the plan. What kind of supplements to take. Why do I need to take these supplements?

Let's say, if we do a specialty kit for hormones, we have hundreds of hormone pathways in our bodies, and sometimes those pathways get flipped. Sometimes we're pushing a hormone down the wrong pathway, and it converts into something it shouldn't. So a lot of these tests and specialty kits will tell us what is happening inside the body. It will tell us whether somebody has Hashimoto's. Let's say, for instance, we do a GI map for gut function. It will tell us whether someone has a leaky gut.

It will tell us what kind of microbes, good and bad, somebody has in their tummy. It will tell us what we need to know to be able to fix that part of the terrain. Because when you can optimize the terrain, then you're walking in good health, but we're not just a physical being. We're mind, body, spirit, and soul, and we like to address all of it. Micah addresses the medical-spiritual side of it, and my job as the client advocate is to walk the client into the onboard, how to get their labs. If they have any questions, I'm available to them.

How do you do that? 

We have several different modes of communication.

Let's pretend I'm feeling a little bit tired, and I'm kind of tired of being tired. I call you up and say, what can you do for me?

First I would want to get to know you a little bit, Ruth. What are your symptoms? Tell me what's going on. Tell me about your journey a little bit.

I'm just so tired.

Well, tell me, are you sleeping well at night? Do you feel fatigued and exhausted all day long? Let's talk about that. What are your sleeping habits?

Then now I've told you about that. What's the next step?

Then I want to know what you're eating. I want to know what you're putting in your mouth. I want to know what kind of stress you're under. I also want to get a feel for where you need to go, because we have several different modes that we can put people into. For instance, we have a side of the business that is for deep chronic illnesses, deep complex diagnosis, and then we have another side of the business for just wellness, for those who have long haulers COVID symptoms, for those, like what you're talking about, who are just exhausted and they're tired of being tired.

Basically what I do is I tell them what kind of testing we can do. I want to know what the symptoms are. I want to know what kind of stress they've been under, and then it's important for me to find out how they want to move forward. Because our biggest goal is to not only give informed consent no matter what we're doing, but if some of our clients are experiencing different therapies with other doctors, we want to give them informed consent for that as well. Because we work in many modalities.

Well, that's actually an important point. Just because something potentially might work for you, if you won't do it or if I won't do it or it doesn't work with my lifestyle or it's not something I want to do, then it's not going to work, right?

It's not going to work. Consistency is key.

Maybe a more simplified plan might work. Is that what I'm hearing you say?

Absolutely.

Is that how it is? Is that the dance that you do?

We can make it as simple and streamlined as our clients need, what they desire, because we're all about free will, choosing your own plan, and we do not bully, coerce, chase. We want people to learn about how to guide their health in a sovereign manner, and we want to be there to help guide them, but we want to teach them how to walk it on their own.

That's actually a really important point. Learn and teach. So what are some of the resources that you offer your patients?

Well, goodness, we can do all kinds of things. For instance, depending on what kind of plan our clients come in at, they would have unlimited access to me during business hours. I might have somebody that has three questions in one day about their supplements. I'm not sleeping well. Okay, well, when are you taking your Active B Complex? At four o'clock in the afternoon? That's why you're not sleeping well. It revs up your system. Let's take that earlier in the day.

Basically, I help people sort of streamline their plans, figure out how to walk into it. For a lot of our cancering clients, we can facilitate mistletoe, which we love to do. It's a wonderful therapy. We do mistletoe trainings. We teach them what it's for, how to inject it themselves at home. We facilitate them being able to purchase it through a pharmacy in Wisconsin.

Do you want to go a little bit more into that, I think, for a lot of people, mistletoe for cancer, what is that about and why?

Well, mistletoe is a wonderful therapy. To be honest, it is used in Europe in the standard of care medical system, but it's not here, and it's been used for over 100 years in Germany.

What does it do? 

It's an immune modulator. It's a wonderful immune modulator. It comes from a lot of different sources, like tree barks and things like that. There's lots of different strains of it.

The word modulator, immune modulator, I sort of understand that word, but practically speaking-

We're poking the bear.

If I'm a fourth grader, what is an immune modulator? What does it do?

When your immune system, which is the system that wakes up and sees the things in your body that needs to be dealt with, if you have a cell that's breaking down and not acting properly, then your immune system is going to recognize that and it's either going to try to heal the cell or destroy the cell. God has wonderfully created our body to know what to do, but there are many times that our body is off the rails for a variety of reasons.

When we have cancering clients who come in, and we want to facilitate mistletoe, and they're wanting to use that therapy, we let them know that it's an immune modulator. What that does is it helps to wake up the immune system. Wake up, wake up. It's like we're poking the bear. Wake up, respond to this therapy. Because with a mistletoe injection, what we do is we look for a reaction. We look for the reaction that's perfect, which we explain to our clients, because we want to poke the bear. We want to make sure the immune system is working properly. When we can wake up the immune system and help it to identify cells that are either unhealthy so that the body can restore the cells, which is what our job is to do, help the terrain restore itself.

What I'm hearing you say is, in the example of cancer, if somebody is having a cancer treatment, by adding it you're asking the body to respond more, or better, or the right way to the treatment that you're already getting. Is that how I understand it?

Yes, we are pushing the immune system to recognize what is actually happening in the body, and to either deal with it by healing it or to kick it out and destroy it.

Interesting. Thank you for that detailed explanation. 

You're very welcome.

Can you tell us some of your favorite stories of real people that you have helped through the years?

We have wonderful stories, but one that makes me so happy, and that I love repeating over and over and over, I received a phone call one day from a young woman, and she was in tears. She said, "My father-in-law has been crying out to Jesus to take him home for the last two days."

Oh, no.

"He has prostate cancer. He does not want to do oncology and radiation." I want to speak to that as well. We do see clients who do want to use standard of care medicine, and we pair alongside that and help them with our plan to allow that modality to work better, but this gentleman didn't want to use standard of care in his cancer treatment.

You're giving people the freedom to pick and choose what works for them?

Absolutely. We are sovereign over our own health, and nobody gets to tell us how to entertain that. It is up to us to research, be informed, and to move forward in what the Lord tells us to move forward in, and what we have peace with.

We'll go a little bit more in depth with that in a little bit, but I really do want to hear about this gentleman.

Well, I'm telling you.

I'm already crying, so I want to hear how this goes.

This gentleman, when we saw him, his PSA was over 7,000.

What is PSA?

When you're looking at a PSA in a gentleman, that is a prostate-specific antigen. That is a test that tells us what's happening in the prostate. When you read a PSA that's 5, 70, 90, 100, if it's above 4 or 5, then we've got problems, but when we see somebody who's PSA is at 7,000, we've got big problems.

Oh, wow. Normal is like it should be four or five.

It should be way lower than that, but when we're moving up to those numbers, then something's going on and we need to address it. Really, we're talking about normal ranges are 0.5, 1.5, 2. As we start moving up that scale, then we know that something's happening. The inflammation is kicking in. Something's going on. Let's address it. When we met this family for onboarding, and we can get people onboarded within a week.

We can get the labs facilitated, we can get the intake forms filled out, and we can begin a plan almost immediately, which is what we did with this gentleman. When we saw them, he was in such a dire place that he could barely speak. He could barely rub two sentences together to create an idea. He was in a bad, bad place. He was in pain. He couldn't walk across the living room floor. He was ready to die and be released from that pain.

Wow.

We made dietary recommendations immediately. Got him off of sugar, got him off of processed carbs, put him on a ketogenic diet, and within two weeks he was able to walk around the house. Within a month he was able to ride his tractor again.

Wow.

Within two months he was speaking so articulately and eloquently that he was a completely different person. Within five months his cancer started to regress. Within eight months at his last scan, and I'm telling you, this man had bone lesions from his forehead to his femur. He had bone lesions everywhere. All over his body. His spine, his clavicle, his femurs, his foreh-- Everywhere. He was in a really dire place. His latest scan, and this is an awesome praise report, there is no bone cancer. There are no bone mets. All they can find is sclerosis, which means scar tissue. The bone mets have completely regressed.

The scar tissue is evidence that it used to be there, but it's no longer there.

Yes, ma'am. He feels so good, it's unbelievable. His labs, his PSA is now back down to a normal level, 1.52, something like that. His labs look as good, if not better, than most of our wellness clients. He's doing so beautifully just in the integrative functional model that we've given him, and he is not using any oncology or standard of care. Now this is not the story we have for all of them. The stories are so varied with each individual person, but that's a good one.

Yes, I did ask you to tell a favorite story. Thank you for that.

You're welcome.

You're talking about integrative functional model. Can you explain what that means?

It means that we look at all modalities, and we never throw the baby out with the bath water. We never say there's only one way. There are many ways to approach an illness or a diagnosis that's complex and needs time to go through and heal. If our clients want to engage in the standard of care medicine or medical model, let's say they have cancer and they want to engage in oncology or radiation, it may be appropriate for what they need.

We never say, "No, never. Don't do that." We want our clients to do what brings them peace and what they believe is going to help them on the path. We will however give informed consent looking at genetics, looking at the entire terrain. If we feel that a plan, that a standard of care doc or that another provider has put together for this person is contraindicated, we will let them know, look, this is this is what your genes are telling us. This is the state that you're in. This may not be the best thing for you right now, but we want to honor what your decision is and how are you feeling about that.

If they choose to move forward, then we're going to honor that. We're going to do our level best to keep them in a good place with their terrain so then the therapies that they're engaged in will be able to do what they do the best.

Yes. Here you go again. You touched on informed consent. Talk about that.

I find that most of our clients come to us in dire straits, they have not been given informed consent about anything.

First of all, can you maybe define it, what is-

Informed consent is detailed consent on any therapy or any modality that you're being asked to engage in, or even on any medicine that you're being asked to take. Informed consent means you know what the side effects are, you know what the outcome may be, you know how that's going to factor in with all the other things in your life, and then you give them the freedom to choose. That's what fully informed consent is.

That sounds good.

Full information on everything. It just doesn't happen that much anymore.

How do you do that? It's a legal form that you read? 

No,ma'am.

Tell us about that, practically speaking.

We use informed consent as we go. For instance, we have a lot of clients who come in after they have found out that they have a cancer diagnosis. They will present their oncologist plan and we go over everything. We go over whether their genetics will support this plan, what that's going to look like for them. The therapies that we can help them navigate through so that the chemo can more effectively do its job. We talk to them about the side effects, where this is going to put their terrain even a year, two years down the road. We don't just tell them the cons, we tell them the pros too. We want them to have all of the information.

A full picture.

Yes, so that they can make the best informed plan moving forward for themselves, because they are in charge of their own health journey, and we are going to honor that.

That sounds good. There's something else that we have touched on a few times throughout this conversation, and you've talked about complex cases. That is what we see a lot of here at the Blair Clinic too. I think that's how we met. When healthcare professionals of different specialties understand each other and understand each other's specialties then, again, the patient care and the patient outcomes, or if you're the sick person and you have specialists in different areas that understand each other and are friends, then you have more options as a person seeking help.

I absolutely love the community that we have found ourselves in the middle of. When you find like-minded people who are curious, curious about what else is out there, not wanting to shut down information but learn, learn, learn, let's research, let's turn that coin over, and over, and over, and make sure that we really understand, let's open every possibility, let's be open, I find that that--

We have a lot of clients who will bring information to us and we're like, "Oh, wow. Okay. I haven't read that before, I'm going to check on that for you." Well, it's the same when you run into professionals who work in the same health industry modalities and are like-minded, this all works together. You guys know that somebody is not just a person with bones, they're mind, body, spirit and soul and we know that too. Working for their better in a whole body approach and being able to cross-reference each other. Ruth, we've got this person that I think you guys are going to benefit. This is going to make them feel better. This is going to help them walk through this plan more effectively, what a great partnership that is.

Yes. I feel what you do with functional integrated medicine model is looking at what the body needs for health. Then give the body what it needs. What we look at here with Blair Chiropractic is saying, is something interfering with the normal healing pathways. If there's something putting pressure on nerves, that is hindering the healing, what we do is remove the interference. That's how that works together. It's like two sides of a coin, if you give the body what it needs, but there's a blockage somewhere, that blockage needs to come off and that's what we do.

Right, and chronic pain is debilitating. Right?

Yes.

It zaps your energy, your strength, your ability to be with other people and communicate with other people in an effective manner. It brings about brain fog. Let's say you have plantar fasciitis or let's say that you have an issue with your neck, every movement is counted. Every look to the right or the left is painful. Every step you take to the kitchen, Oh, gosh, that's going to hurt if I have to get up and do this.

Yes, so really what it's about and that we both work at is helping people get their full lives back.

Yes, absolutely.

What does your full life look like, you, Tye?

I love my life. I absolutely love my life. God has blessed me with an amazing husband, I have a wonderful son and a wonderful daughter-in-law, beautiful grandchildren. I love the freedom that this business has given us. I love being able to freely communicate with our clients and give them what we need, it brings me incredible joy. I honestly love being able to see that there's a hole in the middle of the day and Micah and I will just go spend some time at the disc golf park for a couple of hours and air our heads out and get in God's nature and breathe deeply and reboot and reset because this can be incredibly stressful to work with people who are in a dire place and there's a lot of emotional kick up when that happens.

Becoming attached to our clients happens all the time. Then following down that stream of emotional consciousness, I guess it's easy to get attached to that and suffer when our clients suffer and be upset when something doesn't go the way that we want it to. So it's really important to us to have that mental and physical freedom. I love-

Then you celebrate with them too when they when they get better. Right?

Oh, my-- It's a win. I'll tell my husband, Micah, "Babe, we had a win today. Today was a win. Look at this lab." Absolutely, I love it. It brings me such joy. I always knew that Micah and I were never meant for shallow things. I always knew we were meant for the depths. I didn't know what that was going to look like.

Normally this is the part that goes at the beginning of the program, but you just went right into it.

I do, I go right into the deep stuff.

Why don't you tell us a little bit about your background? How did you get into this? Maybe how did you and Micah meet, and what led you to start this journey of being healthcare providers?

Right, right. That's a great question. I met Micah I think right around 15-16 years ago. I want to say that it was love at first sight.

Was he a-

He was a PA student when we met.

Okay, so he was a student?

He was a student.

What were you doing at the time?

I was actually a hairstylist, I taught a boot camp class and I was a manager of the aerobics department of a gym in Midland, Texas. We just got along so well and as he was going through PA school we fell madly in love with each other. What he did as a PA fell in line with what I would do in health and wellness, or so we thought. Right?

Okay.

Then we moved. When Micah started working for some of these bigger hospital chain clinics, I started to notice the frustration level with him, and I've always been interested in health. I've always been interested in the dynamic of people, in emotions, in people's wellbeing, in the layers of people. Micah doing medicine and me being involved in the beauty industry and also the health industry it felt like it fit really well.

I noticed the first probably six or seven years of our journey he was discontented, and starting to see that people weren't getting better and so he would come home and talk to me about that. He began to get really, really frustrated. Well, that didn't have much to do with me. That was his job. Then he started to research education, the money systems. He started to research some things that took him down a rabbit hole that scared me. He was talking to me about things that I didn't really understand or didn't have any frame of reference for. I don't know where the banking system has come between now and the late 1800s, where our medical system is now, why aren't people healing?

I mean he just started diving deeply for answers to questions that I wasn't really asking at the time, but he was. Then that set me on a path to do my own research into families, government systems, and that led me down another path to actually interviewing trafficking victims, people who were terribly, terribly abused, were able to get out of those systems and escape from that kind of abuse. God just gave me a heart for these people, a willingness to tell their story and to push for that story to be heard. Then I started to edit and create videos around these victim survivors.

My education took me down a very different path than my husband's but they were meshing. They were meshing because we were in a really exciting time of growth, wanting to understand the world that we were living in and we wanted to see it through the eyes of the Lord because we are Christians but we didn't want to live a lie, we wanted to live in truth. That's what brought us down the path of medicine, medical studies. What were we doing? Why weren't people getting better? Then COVID happened.

Was that a breakthrough moment?

The breakthrough came earlier but COVID solidified it. We had moved here to Lubbock a couple years earlier to work with Dr. Ben Edwards at Veritas Medical. My husband was desperately wanting to dive into integrative functional medicine. He knew that there had to be a different way, but he just didn't really have the start off point, and so God gave us that. Dr. Ben spoke at my mother-in-law's church. She talked to my husband about it. We called Dr. Ben and within three months we were in Lubbock.

That's amazing.

It has been an amazing journey. It's been a very deep, deep-- It's been a hard journey. It's been a really hard journey but it's been fulfilling. It's been life changing. It's been a growth journey, so I feel like we've leveled up as adults. I feel like we're adulting properly now.

Okay. You said it's been a hard journey. What's been hard? Then on the flip side, why is it worth it?

It's been hard to learn that a lot of the things that I thought were true were not true.

Okay.

It's been very difficult to learn that these systems that we trusted in weren't really for our benefit or for our health.

Has that taught you to ask different questions?

Yes. It has taught me to understand that I am responsible for myself. I am responsible for my actions. I am responsible for my health. I am responsible for my relationship with the Lord. I am responsible, and if I want to choose to be a sovereign adult, a sovereign individual, created in the image of my savior, then it was my responsibility to navigate those things which meant, "How was I living? What was I putting in my body? What was I looking at? What was I listening to? What was I feeding my spirit?"

It wasn't just about medical health, it was about, I feel that God brought us to Lubbock and really rewired every part of us. It's hard when you learn things that are true, and it feels lonely when you don't have a lot of other people walking in that truth with you. You feel like you're on an island by yourself, so we were pretty lonely the first couple years that we were here, but we had each other and that was exciting. It's worth it because I'm free, I know.

Now you do have a community and you are helping people and you're seeing it grow, so that's exciting.

Yes, yes, and we're teaching people how to take responsibility for themselves the way that we learned how to take responsibility for ourselves as well, which tends to be a new way of thinking in this day and age. We've become so reliant on the medical system. We've become so reliant on other people doing it for us, that to get up and tend to your own garden, cook your own food, make sure it's all organic, grass-fed, grass-finished, that takes work, right?

Yes.

You can't just go to your local grocery store and throw it together. Are you paying the right kind of attention to your-

Or open a package and heat it up. 

Right. Right. Look at the label. Read the label. What does it mean? Do your homework. Do your research. That's a hard ticket to sell these days because so many things are handed to us on a silver platter. We live in a society of instant gratification but when you're learning to take responsibility for yourself and making wise choices, this is why we named the business Worldview Wellness. What is your worldview? That is what will determine your walk.

When my husband chose that name, I'm like, "Ohm honey, that's a mouthful. Like really? I don't know about that." It makes perfect sense to me now because our worldview is Christ-centered, to reign centric and centered, and from the soil to the soul, we believe that we should be nurtured. We believe that we should nurture other people. We believe that we should tell the truth and love and do our very best every day to what we're called to do.

That's beautiful. Is there something that you wish everybody would know or you can't wait to talk about that I haven't asked you about?

I want everybody to know that there's healing.

Healing is possible.

Healing is possible. I want people to change their expectation of it.

That is actually the reason I have this podcast is even if you've tried everything, maybe you haven't tried everything because we are meant to be healthy.

We are meant for our bodies to correct and heal themselves, but we live in such a place now in our society where the soil is so de-nutritioned, that it's really just poisoned down. We have to be careful about everything we put in our mouth, where was it grown? How was this cattle raised? How were these chickens raised? Where do these eggs come from? You have to become so aware of everything around you.

I love the journey. I want people to understand that healing doesn't always look like what you think it is. We have clients who come in, and we have a lot of people who come to us, Stage 4 cancer, mets everywhere, this is the last option. Chemo's failed them. They've tried everything so now this is the desperate Hail Mary at the end of the game. We understand that. Our goal is to teach them that maybe it's not about remission. What if we could get you to a stable place and you could get yourself to a stable place, and what if you could coast like that for the next 50 years? Is that doable?

So is it doable?

It is doable, absolutely. We have many, many Stage 4 clients in our service who came to us pretty much on their last leg. We've been open for almost two and a half years now and most of them are still with us. Most of them have increased quality. They certainly have outlived what their doctor told them their life expectancy would be. It doesn't always work out that way though, Ruth. Sometimes we walk our clients to the door of eternity. Our goal was to give them good quality in the interim and to be there for them and to help them through the hard stuff.

I guess no matter what quality of life we live, we will eventually go and be with Jesus.

That's right. That's right. God does heal. Sometimes it's not on this side of the fence, but He always heals. Always. We have seen miraculous healings on this side of the fence, but maybe it's just about giving somebody a different perspective, a wider view of what's possible. Maybe we're just there to teach them to love, live, laugh in the moment, and to not miss their life because they're fighting this thing. Sometimes that's the only reason that God brings us there.

To get the life back.

Yes.

Tye, do you have a life verse or a quote or something that motivates you and helps you day-to-day to keep you on the up and up?

Absolutely. Jeremiah 17:14 has been a favorite scripture of mine since I was 21 years old. "Heal me, Lord, and I will be healed. Save me and I will be saved for you are my praise." The first time I saw that scripture I had just randomly opened my Bible and that stuck out like a sore thumb. When I was reading it's like honey was poured over my soul. It brought me such peace and comfort and it spoke out loud to me. I want to say that's probably the first time a scripture ever did that for me, as a baby in my faith. That has been one of my stabilizing scriptures. "Heal me, Lord, and I'll be healed. Save me and I will be saved because you are who I praise." That has been my foundation.

That is great. It just occurred to me that I hadn't said that in the show notes for this program there will be a link to your website, (Click here to go to World View Wellness Website) your contact information, and also you have a podcast.

I do.

If somebody wants to find out more, those are a lot more in depth.

They are and they're a lot longer than yours. [laughs] I think ours are very long.

If somebody wants to find more, we'll put a link to that in the show notes as well.

Click here to go to World View Wellness Health Matters Podcast

Thank you so much.

Now that I have said that, actually, I would like for you to wrap up by saying that verse one more time at the end here.

Jeremiah 17:14, "Lord, heal me and I will be healed. Save me and I will be saved for you are my praise."